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The Holy Spirit guides the Church to understand the Scriptures, not individual believers.
I've never heard that before, and doesn't sound quite right to me. If that were the case, why wouldn't the Pope alone be given the gift of the Holy Spirit? Why are all believers given the gift of the Spirit dwelling within? Of course if my understanding is opposed to Church teaching I surrender my own and hold fast to the Church. But the Holy Spirit often speaks to me as I read Scriptures each day.

Can you show me anything in official doctrine that plainly states that the Holy Spirit does not guide individuals to understanding Scriptures?
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No--Find a catholic one, or join a men's or women's group and listen to catholic answers and watch EWTN
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I've never heard that before, and doesn't sound quite right to me. If that were the case, why wouldn't the Pope alone be given the gift of the Holy Spirit? Why are all believers given the gift of the Spirit dwelling within? Of course if my understanding is opposed to Church teaching I surrender my own and hold fast to the Church. But the Holy Spirit often speaks to me as I read Scriptures each day.

Can you show me anything in official doctrine that plainly states that the Holy Spirit does not guide individuals to understanding Scriptures?
The Holy Spirit gives us the gifts of wisdom and understanding, but we are not expected to read the Bible without the guidance of the Church - that's what the Church is there for, and why the Holy Spirit empowered the Church at Pentecost.

The Holy Spirit doesn't come to us to teach us what the Church is supposed to be teaching us, but rather, to give us the receptivity of mind and humility to be able to receive the teachings without disputing or doubting them.
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The bold part above is a good example of a Catholic swallowing a Protestant idea without even noticing it (which is why you shouldn't spend 3 years studying the Bible with them unless you are already well formed in the Faith).

The Holy Spirit guides

the Church to understand the Scriptures
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not individual believers

(which idea is at the heart of sola fide which Luther invented to justify his revolt).
so did the translaters get it wrong??

But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the ...

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him ...
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But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need ..

. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is ... And if The Anointing will remain with you which you have received from him, .... revelation and doctrine, for the whole Gospel was come by Jesus Christ, and



Thanks -- i have not seen any one define the limitation fo the Holy Spirit like this --

it eliminates all of Saint Paul writings-- especally -- 1 cor 12 and 1 cor 14- and ephesians -

Ephesians 4:5 states there is "one Lord, one faith, one baptism."
Some Christians interpret this to mean that a single denomination
(with its beliefs, doctrines, and practices) constitutes the "one true faith."

Other Christians interpret this to mean that a group of denominations (with their collective beliefs, doctrines, and practices, which are sometimes different or even contradictory) constitutes a collective "one true faith."-
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Thanks for all the commentaries. I think it's best for me to stay away from this "non-denominational" bible studies that will probably confuse me. I liked the idea of doing my own bible study group at my local parish, but before I do that, I need to study more.

I bought the Navarre Bible and that has a lot of good commentary and I also found a very good website that has audio commentary on all four gospels:

http://www.franciscansisters.net/ind...pturestudy.htm

My problem is that I'm not very good at explaining myself. I understand some of the things that I read but when it comes time to explaining them, then I get into trouble. I'm kind of like Moses, but with God's help I know that I can do it.